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Generate Random Numbers in a Knack App

Updated: Jul 4



Want a Random Number?

Hey everyone, today I want to dive into a topic that's crucial for some Knack applications: generating random numbers. This might sound straightforward, but ensuring fairness and consistency can be surprisingly tricky, especially in scenarios like student applications for competitive programs. Let me walk you through how to handle this effectively.


Use Case: Student Applications

Imagine a scenario where students are applying for limited seats in a school program based on their scores. If multiple students have the same score, a random number decides their fate. This ensures fairness and complies with state regulations, preventing biases and ensuring equal opportunity.


Setting Up Random Numbers

To begin with, we need to generate these random numbers within our application system. Here’s how you can do it using a no-code platform:


  1. Creating the Random Number Field: Start by creating an equation field, let's call it random_id, within your application. This field will use a random number generator function. While some platforms use random, others like mine use random_int to generate integers. plaintext Copy code random_int(1, 10000) This function generates a random integer between 1 and 10,000. Adjust the range based on your specific needs. Best to see the video for a full explanation.

  2. Ensuring Unique Random Numbers: A potential issue arises if your application has many records. The same random number might occur again, which isn’t ideal. To resolve this, consider the following approach.

  3. Implementing a Static Random Field: Here’s the trick: add a number field, say static_random, to your application. This field will capture the random number but only assign it once, preventing it from changing every time the record updates.

  • Set up a conditional rule that populates static_random with random_id only when static_random is blank (i.e., during the initial record creation).

  • This ensures that once a random number is assigned to a student's application, it remains fixed throughout the evaluation process, maintaining fairness and consistency.


Testing and Implementation

Let’s walk through a quick test to ensure everything works as intended:


  • Create a new record in your application. Observe that static_random picks up the value of random_id.

  • Update the record multiple times. Note that while random_id changes with each update (reflecting its random nature), static_random retains its initial value, as per the conditional rule.


Final Thoughts

It's important to understand the order of operations within your application platform. Ensure that the assignment of static_random occurs after random_id is generated to avoid capturing an outdated value.


This method not only streamlines the application process but also adheres to regulatory requirements, ensuring fairness and transparency. By mastering the art of generating random numbers, you can build robust applications that stand up to scrutiny and deliver equitable outcomes.


I hope this walkthrough has been helpful. If you have any questions or insights to share on managing random numbers in applications, feel free to drop them in the comments below. Stay tuned for more tips and tricks on building powerful applications!


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